Jacques collina-girard THE atlantide and Gibraltar - 25/09/2005 following preceding Carte blanche to: Jacques collina-girard Geologist To Discover his trade To Read his bibliographie His dedicates
Position 1: All imaginary east in the narrative of PlatoLeaving a tradition, presented as authentic, Plato develops the fiction of an Ideal Republic, opposed victoriously to an invader Atlantic. As a novelist that, from a does various, constructs his matter, the philosopher puts together a moralistic fable. The complex corporation atlantidienne of the "Critias", transposed utopia in the past of a history presented as true, is very confession of his author, imaginary (this is we that let us underline) : "The citizens and the city that yesterday you represented us as a fiction, we will transpose them now in the order of reality: we will suppose that it is a matter of the city that here: the citizens that you had imagined, we will say that this are these, the true ones, our ancestors, those of which had spoken the priest. There will be agreement completes, and we not at all will wander if we assert that they are well those that existèrent in those times. "
Plato THIS IS also the opinion of the learned, familiar ones of the Greek texts, that there rediscover, transposed and idealized, the cities states contemporary of Plato. The current tendency with these specialists is again more radical since she generalizes this opinion has the entirety of the narrative. One refuses then all net one, and has priori, the evocation of a real event that would be the source of the history. It true that all the "interpretations" proposed so far are being delirious. One will find an inventory of these productions litteraires where the science fiction claims to replace the science in a recent work on these "imaginary atlantides". Science novelists fiction and holding fantastic archeology currently contributed to do the comments of the antique philosopher a modern one always living myth, of which the general public, more familiar of Walt Disney than of Plato, has well often completely forgotten the sources!
Outside of the scientific field, but itself while claiming, certain vulgarisateurs, not very exacting regarding coherence with the archeological and geological data, evoke a continent populated of a very advanced, swallowed one up civilization somewhere between the old one and the New World. This civilization ghost would be the hypothetical source but asserted, of all the big civilizations of the antiquity since egypt to the Mesoamérique. The man would divert thus ancestors more illustrate than those discovered by the archeology "official". The research of prestigious native Fathers (indeed extraterrestrial!) with recalcitrant authors to all rational argument is a constant one sufficiently clear one and repetitive, to relate back to mechanisms psychopathologiques shed. Position 3: The narrative of Plato could be partially true Exasperated by the deliria of the atlantomanie most of the hellénistes do not evoke anymore the possibility of a reliable tradition. To the VI century after J.C, Proclus does not exclude nevertheless this possibility in interprètant the text of Plato as a reality mixture historic and of allegory. To support this view point Proclus quotes Marcellus and his geography treaty "on the things éthiopiques" (on Africa) : this source would confirm the testimony of Plato while evoking the tradition of an archipelago of seven swallowed ones up islands to the gone out of the Columns of hercules. Certain specialists of the Greek texts, interviewed by the magazine "Science and Life" do not seem as adamant as their colleagues and do not refuse, without arguments, the possibility as there can be a reality kernel in the myth. Of fact, for lack of new facts to pour to the file since two thousand years, supporters and opposing of a real Atlantide do nothing but to assert, more or less violently, personal impressions …
